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Not to be nitpicky or pointing any fingers, but I been noticing lately people getting banned for cod4 guid/keys that are hacked. Yesterday I noticed somebody telling people to change their guid/key and linked then to a keygen.  You SAY you don't support hacked guids/keys, yet use a illegal keygen to make a cracked guids/keys. All to give them a unused BUT hacked guid/key. Curious to know why anybody would aid them in that manner?

I get it you want to be helpful and nice, but this is very conflicting and can send a bad message imo. Maybe not tell them how to illegal do stuff, then supply the illegal keygen? Maybe let them figure it out themselves? Just wanted to add my experienced 2 cents... 

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You're absolutely right, but for example, we have players who ban their key because it uses a cracker key that a hacker played with, but the player in question did not cheat anything.

for example we have this guid http://dwarea.com/clientdetails.php?id=116 used 465257 Aliases: used 5055 different names, and this guid is banned from our servers, so we banned this guid, but unfortunately we have more than 400 different players banned.

That's why I propose this tools for clean players, it's true that a hacker can use it, but we can ban are IP, but it can also change ip, and we can not do anything.

Unfortunately it's cracker servers and more than 80% of players use cracker keys.

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The thing is we have an ip ban system so even if the person changes Key code they will still be banned 

sometimes people lose their cod4 so need a new key and don't want to buy another one we are aiding in helping them

its a common misconception we are not aiding in ban evading but rather helping those who are less fortunate 

 

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I get it, but I just would think you can link them to it, but not have the file on the site itself. You know what I mean? It just covers your butt.

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How? I don't get it? Its the same if we just link them to it or just have it on site? We kinda need to link them to where it is on this site anyway

And linkning them to a other site can be shady, could be malware on the file etc etc

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You wouldn't have illegal stuff on your site or would it be linked to the clan. Nor would you aid in helping others crack  something that NOBODY can verify that they ever had a legit guid in the first place. Or ever even bought the game. Yes peoples real purchased key/guids can be stolen. That's their problem, not yours. Its on them to do what they have to to fix it. Not you.

Btw, what I said above is different. I was trying to find a middle point. That's what comes when people spit-ball ideas. Personally i'd not have anything to do with helping people crack their guid/keys, program or verbal help. You decide to ban them, tell them why. The rest should be on them right? I guess it depends how serious the clan is about some things. But any clan I been in over 18 years, no hacks, no aids, no verbal help to do anything illegal. You might as why? In their opinion it makes them look bad on some level. It may not matter to some but to others it might. If that doesn't matter or the clan doesn't share that thought, feel free to not worry about it.

It's not a big deal by any means. I brought it up just in case it mattered to some. Since I like a few members/admin, I just felt I'd pass on some info to help or to find a good solution. No biggy, no love lost, just trying to help DW be better as a whole. My bad.

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We could always remove cracked key from servers as Orginal cod servers do, and the program wont work at all.

So the program isnt illegal since it doesnt work on ORG cod servers but only on servers who allowes cracked keys which we do.

So I dont see any problems having it on the site at all, but anyone got different opinions.

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eXe, It's all good bud. I just thought it was worthy of at least bringing up. I'm not even a member so, take it with a grain of salt :)

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Yeah ofc, thats why I said, everyone got different opinions :)
We are just discussing bud you got something to say, and we just responded with what we think.
 

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:thankyou:

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You say “don’t help them, it’s their problem” kind of thing but we want players to be able to play and have fun on our servers. If they get unfairly banned because they took the first key they found off of google then yes it’s partially their fault but personally I think that we should still try to help these people.

They are here to have fun, we want to make sure they can do that. :) (This is just a statement of my opinion, I’m not meaning it to be read in a way taken to be rude, I understand where you’re coming from with this argument.)

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Sergi, feel free to jump in. I value different angles. I'm not taking it as rude, its a debate/discussion. I enjoy them.

One thing though. How can you verify they ever had one (key/guid) in the first place? People just download COD4 and have no clue how to get a guid. (for example he comes here) You guys could help them but wouldn't that also be aiding somebody with a not so legit game get a not so legit key/guid? How would you know? Take everybody at their word? Tough to do these days imo. 

On the flip side... Anybody can go D/l cod4mw and use one of those keygens and be fine on the server. And thats fine I guess. But let them sort of do the fishy stuff on their own.

This topic sort of walks a fine line, you know what I mean? Like there is a grey area. Sorry if I am repeating, considering I think you get what I mean.

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46 minutes ago, Segria said:

You say “don’t help them, it’s their problem” kind of thing but we want players to be able to play and have fun on our servers. If they get unfairly banned because they took the first key they found off of google then yes it’s partially their fault but personally I think that we should still try to help these people.

I agree with help but it should be limited. Sorry i didn't answer what mainly you were pointing out. When I said "don't help them" and "your problem", I  mean more or less don"t tell them how to do it or where. Just say that (whatever the reason) was taken and you need a different one. Please use google to find out how to fix it kind of thing. And it kind of is their problem. That's way more than most servers/clan would do. It always falls back on if you can tell they are telling you the truth that they even had a legit key/guid in the first place. 

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They dont need to have a legit key in the first place, thats why we allow cracked keys, so cracked COD4 players can play on our server hence they use the keygen program.

If we was against using cracked keys we would just remove cracked key from our servers so they can't join at all

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Gotchya, sorry doing like 8 things at once. Sometimes it takes a bit for it to click in, lol.  

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As eXe said, they don’t need to have owned an official copy of the game. How they got access to play, whether through a generator or ownership, isn’t our business, I mean, how are we to know whether they own the game and lost the key or not? This game is so old and since the remastered is available now I doubt activision really cares too much or else they’d be taking measures against it. I mean, how much does a key code even cost anymore? Like less than 5 dollars?

 

Its a good point but we aren’t THAT strict. 

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Np most of the clans that did that were also competitive/ranked (over the years). So It was one of those things that was always done. Guess that just rubbed off on me since I was in some of them. It's all good. I have nothing further to add, lol.  j/k. Have a good one!

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the software on our site is not illegal, as long as the generator provided key cracked and not official key this is not a problem. 

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